Saturday, December 21, 2013

The Laws of Dating

This post actually isn't my own work or my own words. I got all of this from this little 64 page, redish in color book called  “Laws of Dating” by Mike Tucker. It was released in 2007 and is an amazingly powerful book, which changed my view on relationships and what they should and shouldn’t be back in 2010 when I bought it and read it. So I just wanted to share it on my blog page as I think it’s a great teaching tool. This book sums up 10 different laws of dating which I’m going to mention here briefly. They are designed to spare you as much pain as possible, both now and in the years to come in the world of dating, relationships, and marriage. For a more complete in depth detail on these topics and each of the 10 laws I’m going to list, please read the whole book “Laws of Dating” by Mike Tucker. You can still get it online like I did for cheap or read it online at the link I posted at the end of this blog. I will now just give you a taste of what is said straight from Mike Tucker from each of the 10 laws. The full book is great, it changed my outlook, and I recommend it for people of all ages. Hope you give it a read!!

Law #1:  If it isn’t easy and it isn’t fun, break up!

“You shouldn't spend a great deal of time trying to repair a relationship if it’s going to be very difficult to maintain. Learn which of your partner’s personality traits, values, beliefs, or life circumstances make it difficult for the two of you to be in a relationship and then date some one who doesn’t have those characteristics. Also deal with your personal relationship problems first and then date. You will find that when you do so, you will be attracted to healthier people and you will be more attractive to the people with whom a relationship is easy and fun….and when problems do arise in the relationship, you will be able to identify them as relationship problems rather then personal problems.”

Law #2:  Date only people whom you would consider marrying

“If a primary purpose of dating is mast selection, then it makes sense to restrict your dating to people who might qualify as marriage candidates. Since you will likely marry someone you date, you provide a measure of safety by keeping that group rather small and excluding those who wouldn’t make a suitable marriage partner.  If a candidate doesn’t possess one of your non-negotiable characteristics, move on. Don’t waste your time dating people who wouldn’t make a suitable marriage partner. Let’s take this a step further. If you are a fully devoted follower of Jesus Christ, not only should the person you marry be a fully devoted follower of Jesus Christ too, but that person should share some, if not all of your beliefs. For example, I’m a Seventh-day Adventist Christian. That means, among other things, that I attend church on Saturday instead of Sunday. While on the surface this may appear to some to be a small matter, let me assure you that this can be a major stumbling block to a successful marriage. If one marriage partner attends church on Saturday and the other on Sunday, both will find themselves attending church alone. This practice isn’t conducive to a satisfying marriage. Some might agree to go to church on both Saturday and Sunday every week, but that rarely lasts more than a few months. Others agree to respect their partner’s religious practices while holding onto their own, but this can be less than satisfying since your partner rarely shares your experiences of spiritual growth. This can cause you to grow apart. Still others even live with an uneasy truce in religious matters. This is most unsatisfying. The real trouble comes when children arrive on the scene. Then the question becomes in which denomination the couple will raise their children. If the couple chooses to go together to the church that one of them belong to, the one whose church was rejected often feels resentment about the choice. So, some couples agree to choose neither denomination, thinking they will allow the children to make their own decision when they are old enough. However, research shows that children from such unions rarely choose either denomination. Most often, they are so confused that they tend to remain un-churched as adults.”

Law 3: If your partner uses/abuses alcohol, prescription medications, illegal drugs, or mind/mood altering substances of any kind, break up!!

“When people begin to use or abuse alcohol or any other legal or illegal drug, their emotional development stops that very day. We haven’t even begun to speak of the other problems associated with addictions. These problems can include such things as financial stress, emotional distancing, loss of touch with reality, health problems, infidelity, extreme and persistent dishonesty, vulnerability to disease, self hatred, self harm, lack of dependability, suicidal ideations, and deep guilt and shame. This list is nowhere near exhaustive, but none of the things mentioned here are ever conductive to forming strong relationships. Don’t date people with addictions. Pray for them. Participate in an intervention with them, and get them to someone who can help them.”

Law 4: If your dating partner is physically sexually, or verbally abusive, break up!

“Let’s get a few things straight. Abuse is always wrong. Abuse is never the fault of the victim; it’s always the responsibility and fault of the abuser. There is never a time when abuse is permissible or even excusable. Abuse should never be tolerated or kept secret. God doesn’t want you to live in an abusive situation. To live with abuse is not a sign of spiritual maturity. Those who abuse are unhealthy and aren’t fit for dating, never mind for marriage.”

Law 5: Before you date, know how far is too far

“What I can say is that you must set those boundaries before you date. When you’re in a moment of romance or passion, it’s to late to make that decision. When you’ve set your boundaries, if the person you are dating doesn’t respect them, it’s time to break up. Your boundaries are an expression of your values, of who you are at your core. Whoever disrespects those boundaries is disrespecting you. Mutual respect is a hallmark of successful relationships. It is unrealistic to expect that someone who fails to respect you before marriage will suddenly change and begin to show respect when you’re married.”

Law 6: If either party needs to rescue, fix, or change or to be rescued, fixed, or changed, break up!

“The old saying is that on her wedding day the bride has only three things on her mind: The aisle, the alter, and him—as in “I’ll alter him!” It is a mistake to think that you can change someone. Don’t date for the potential you see in a person, date only for what you actually see today in that person. Don’t try to “fix” your dating partner. If your partner needs to be fixed or if you want to fix him or her, yours is a relationship in trouble. Rescuing or being rescued implies a co-dependent relationship. This often happens in cases of addictions or in cases where one party has poor self-esteem. Some forms of mental illness or mental imbalance may also result in a person’s feeling a need to be rescued. But rescuing is an unhealthy behavior, and needing to be rescued is also unhealthy. You may feel good when you can rescue the person you’re dating. Maybe you can get them out of their bad mood or fix their problems or keep them from getting drunk or using drugs. While this may bring some measure of satisfaction now think about what it would be like to be married to that person. Think of spending every day of the rest of your life rescuing the person who lives in the same house with you. Think of never having space from that person. Think of all the emotional, physical, mental, and spiritual energy you’ll have to expend to keep that person’s spirits up. Is that really the way you want to spend the rest of your life?”

Law 7: If either party tends to control, dominate, or isolate the other party from friends or family, break up!

“Controlling behavior, especially when it isolates an individual from family and friends, is often a precursor to abuse. This is dangerous behavior and must not be tolerated. The desire to control, dominate, or isolate often grows from very poor self-esteem. People who control do so because they believe that this is the only way they can keep the object of their affection. They believe that if they allowed their beloved freedom of choice, their beloved would choose to leave—and they are desperately fearful of losing the object of their affection. They believe that such a major rejection would validate their worst fear—that they are so inferior and broken as to render them unlovable. Their fear borders on paranoia and can become violent.”

Law 8: If you find it difficult to talk or to be accurately understood or if you find that the two of you avoid unpleasant issues in the relationship, break up!

“Communication is an important key to any lasting relationship. It is important that you marry someone with whom you find communication to be easy. Therefore, you should date only people with whom you communicate well. What makes communication satisfying? First mutual understanding should be the norm, not the exception. If most of the time you are misunderstood or you misunderstand your partner, your communication is neither effective nor satisfying. Mutual understand provides increased feelings of love, acceptance, and value. Wouldn’t you like to have these things in your marriage?” When communication results in fights, emotional outbursts, name-calling, or personal attacks, it has a destructive effect on the relationship. Words can wound or heal. The wounds may not be visible, but they exist just the same. No amount of “I’m sorry’s” can take them away, and the scars can last for years. Satisfying communication is communication that is free of words that wound.”

Law 9: If you’ve been the victim of molestation, incest, or rape, get help before you date seriously.

“Statistics on the prevalence of sexual abuse vary, but suffice it to say in the United States, among women who have reached twenty-one years of age, somewhere between one-fourth and one-third have experienced some form of molestation, incest, or rape. One study declared that 16 percent of men had also been the victims of sexual crime in childhood. Add to this the number of young men who are exposed to pornography at an early age, and you have a picture of childhood in America that is quite alarming. Children in this country aren’t nearly as safe as we would like to believe. It is sickening when those who are least able to defend themselves have experienced such unspeakable crimes! Victims of sexual crimes suffer more than just physical harm. The most devastating effects are emotional, mental, and relational. Trust is difficult to achieve, and genuine intimacy seems impossible. Guilt, shame, fear, anger, and even addictive behavior can dominate the life of the victim of abuse. Most victims internalize the guilt of what happened to them, even blaming themselves for the abuse rather than blaming the offender. They feel that something must be wrong with them.”

Law 10: Surrender your dating life and your sexuality to Jesus

“Jesus invented the whole concept of sexuality. It was His idea and His creation. What makes us think we can improve on the Manufacturer’s plan for this wonderful invention? We can’t! Some Christians have denigrated and ignored the body, seeing it as “earthly” and therefore inherently sinful and even disgusting to God. They see sexual pleasure, even within the confines of marriage, as being a sin of the flesh or as very unspiritual activity. Nothing could be further from the truth. Sexuality is by nature a very spiritual experience. Students of human behavior have often observed that there exists a very strong link between spirituality and sexuality.”

The Three Components of Committed Love
True marital love consists of three components: Passion, intimacy, and commitment.

1. Passion – It is the longing or desire that lovers have for each other. It is the stuff of sexual attraction and romance and sensuality. Passion is the motivation side of love. Often it is stronger in the early stages of a relationship, fostered by a rapidly growing physical attraction. On the negative side, passion can also be possessive or even obsessive. Passion can move lovers to an extreme level of preoccupation with one another.

2. Intimacy – It is the emotional side of love. Intimacy is simply knowing and being know. It is the knowing a person well—knowing their thoughts, beliefs, values, likes, dislikes, and history. It means knowing everything—good and bad—and still accepting the other person for who he or she is. Intimacy provides that “soulmate” quality that so many seek in a relationship. If love is to be fulfilling, there must be an open sharing of every aspect of life. Openness, communication, honesty, sharing, and support are all necessary for intimacy to occur.

3. Commitment – It is a dogged determination to make a relationship work. It is the rock-solid promise to be there for the other person, uniting one’s life with the others, regardless of circumstances. Commitment is the cognitive and willful side of love. It is the promise to be there “until death do us part”. It provides certainty in a world of uncertainty. It declares, “I love you because of who you are, not because of what you do or how I feel.

Every relationship will have its ebbs and flows. However, for any love relationship to be strong, it must have a balance of passion, intimacy, and commitment. Having only two of those elements is something less then healthy. Those who have passion and commitment with no intimacy have foolish love. Commitment and intimacy without passion is companionship love. Passion and intimacy without commitment is romantic love. Only those who have passion, intimacy, and commitment have true love—the love it takes to make a marriage last. Those who wish to build a great love should aim to grow each of these three elements.

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Sunday, November 17, 2013

Death and the State of the Dead - Part 6

Is there life after death?

What is the purpose of religion? You’ll probably get many different answers to that question, depending on who you’re talking with. However, many religious skeptics claim that religion exists merely as a vehicle for humanity to attempt to explain the unexplainable aspects of life and, ultimately, mollify the masses’ fears about death. The logical conclusion when deciding that religious thinking is man made mythology is that death is the absolute end of life; there is no life, no hope, no existence at all beyond the grave. Some people find comfort in this naturalistic point of view, because it releases them from any responsibility toward any God and leaves them to enjoy their lives as they see fit. This line of thinking grew in popularity throughout the 20th century. This type of skepticism, however, doesn't stop many people from wondering what, if anything, awaits us on the “other side” of death. Death and the after life remain a source of confusion, mystery, and fear for many people. Is there an afterlife? If so, is it immediate? Is it bodily or spiritual? How is it different than the life we know now? Is everything bigger and better? Do we gain more wisdom? More power?  Where does this life take place? When does it occur? We believe there is a plan to overcome death, and we can learn about this plan from an absolutely authoritative source.

Any study of the nature of death begs an important foundational question: Why must things die in the first place? Indeed, death is a grand mystery. Throughout time, every major religion, philosophy, and spiritual train of thought has sought to explain this mystery. It is a subject that touches the life of every man and woman, uniting the entire human race under a cloud of inevitable mortality. The rich and the poor alike meet the same end; the black and the white both go to the grave; the powerful and the humble all leave this planet eventually. Interestingly, scientific research into single-celled organisms reveals that the nature of life, on a cellular level, does not automatically include a self-destruct mechanism for death. In other words, it appears that death is an unnatural part of life. Yet despite this, everything on earth eventually dies. Many lines of religious thought simply accept the inevitability of death and instead try to offer better alternatives that await the faithful in the afterlife. These ideas bring comfort to many people who have lost loved ones or are facing death themselves, but they leave others wondering, “Why must death exist? Wouldn’t an all-powerful God eradicate death? Shouldn’t all life inherently live forever? ”So the question of the nature of death also brings profound implications about the nature of God. Maybe, some reason, God is not as powerful as He says, since the problem of death remains. Maybe God numbs our sensibilities after death, if we are promised happiness in paradise despite the horrors unfolding on our loved ones who are still alive. Maybe, if living a bad life truly results in eternal torment afterward, God is not really as loving as so many people claim. Maybe there are actually many pathways to God, or many such gods, and the mystery of death will be solved differently for each person, depending on their philosophies in life. Maybe there is no such thing as death, but instead a continual rebirth through reincarnation. Maybe, according to a train of thought that has grown in popularity since the 19th century, life is nothing more than a biochemical accident, and death brings with it a never-ending state of nothingness; the most common conclusion drawn from this line of thinking is that there is no God at all.

The mystery of death is so profound that, despite the millennia of religious doctrine, mythology, scientific research, and the many theories and explanations that exist on the subject, people today are more confused than ever about it. Even within individual religious groups there is often a stark difference of opinion on the nature of death. To see this, walk around a cemetery and note the different inscriptions on the tombstones. Clearly, the only way to decipher this profound mystery is to find an authoritative source of truth that will expose all error and remove the need for speculation. Are we fortunate enough to have such an authority? 
We believe so.The subjects of death and religion are inherently linked. If something does await us after we die, a supernatural being like a god must be involved. It stands to reason, then, that we should look to religious texts to find information about death.

However, there are many religious texts available today, and they do not all say the same thing about death. In fact, one of the reasons there are so many opinions about death is the diverse array of religious doctrines on the subject. So how do we know which text, if any, will guide our search correctly? First, we must look for a text that claims to be directly from God. After all, if God holds the answers to death, then any real answer must come from Him. This singular principle narrows the selection of texts considerably. For example, the Buddhist texts contain many spiritual insights, but Buddha himself never claimed to be God, or to speak on God’s behalf. Thus, the insights contained there are Buddha’s, not God’s. In reality, there is only one collection of texts in existence that makes the bold claim to contain direct communications from God: The collection we call the Bible. 


Over and over again, it records God speaking directly to mankind; in fact, the Bible itself claims that the Holy Spirit of God communicated the contents of the Scriptures to God’s prophets on earth, who wrote them down. Thus, the true author of the Bible is God Himself. Though some other religious texts also claim to be from God, such as the Koran and the Book of Mormon, they do not claim to supersede or replace the Bible. The Muslim faith claims its prophet, Mohammed, was a descendant of Abraham’s son Ishmael, a character found in the book of Genesis; the Book of Mormon claims that it is “another” testament of Jesus Christ. Thus, both texts and the faiths that view them as authoritative ultimately acknowledge the Bible as a communication from God. We should look to the Bible, then, for answers about death. The Bible contains a record of the entire history of mankind, from the moment man was created on the earth until the close of earth’s history and beyond. It describes a world where death did not exist, explains how death came to exist here, and reveals the steps God took to eventually eliminate death and restore that planet to its originally intended state. There are no gaps in the Bible’s record of history. Through an understanding of the prophecies contained therein, we are able to identify our modern day in texts written nearly two millennia ago and to peer into the future to see what God has in store. The Bible also claims that God is the source and originator of all life. It makes this claim many times. Therefore, we have a detailed description of the nature of life and death from the One who is responsible for life in the first place. In our view, this makes the Bible the authoritative source to learn about issues relating to death. 

Now you might ask: “What if I belong to a non-Christian faith group? Does the Bible still apply to me?” Good questions. The majority of the books written in the Bible were written before the word “Christian” existed. In other words, most of the authors of the Bible belonged to a non-Christian faith group. The Bible makes the claim that all human life originated with God. Over the course of history, different societies have emerged that have created their own image of God for themselves, resulting in different religions and theological ideas. However, these do not actually change God. God remains God, no matter what we do to his word. Therefore, the Bible is for everyone. Its truths about God are not limited to the Jews or the Christians. In fact, at varying points of history, the Jews and the Christians alike have lost sight of God and misrepresented His character to the world. While it is true that the Hebrew (Jewish) and Christian people are the ones who wrote the Bible, God is available to everyone in the world, regardless of church affiliation. We encourage you to consider what the Bible says about death even if you do not identify yourself as Jewish or Christian. We encourage you to learn about the God who claims everyone on earth as His own. You might also say: “I don’t believe in God.” If this is true, then you certainly don’t believe that the Bible is inspired or written by God. That is your choice, and we respect it. However, ask yourself what it is you do believe and why you believe it … and we encourage you to learn a different perspective about life and death than you’ve likely heard before. The arguments we make on this website are drawn exclusively from the Bible. We believe they are authoritative for the reasons we’ve stated here. We believe they apply to all people on earth, regardless of race, ethnicity, or church affiliation. Millions of people throughout time have found peace and joy in the messages of the Bible, and we hope you will be one of them as you study this important topic with us.

Death is nearly as old as life itself on this planet, and its roots are from even earlier. The Bible records the origin of death on earth and also the events that happened elsewhere that allowed for death to exist in the first place. The Scriptures are perfectly clear that death is an abnormality and was never meant to exist at all. To understand why everyone on this planet is subject to the strange mystery of death, we must first travel elsewhere in the universe, to a place the Bible calls heaven. Heaven is where God dwells. It is the headquarters of the universe. Long before there was life on earth, there was life in heaven. The Bible tells us that creatures we know as angels existed there. There were many angels, “ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands and thousands” of them, a number so high they are essentially “innumerable” (Revelation 5:11; Hebrews 12:22). These beings lived in perfect harmony with each other. They served God and each other. There was no death. God’s perfect creatures were made to live forever, living ever more abundantly as time went on. But something went wrong in this heavenly paradise. The Bible tells us of one of these angels who was “perfect in [his] ways from the day [he was] created, till iniquity was found in [him]” (Ezekiel 28:15). 

In other words, the seed of sin festered in this angel’s heart until it finally erupted into a full rebellion. Unfortunately, this was no ordinary angel. He was the “anointed cherub who covers;” he ministered “on the holy mountain of God,” walking “back and forth in the midst of fiery stones” (Ezekiel 28:14). He had the highest position of all the angels, ministering directly to God. As such, there was no one in heaven with more power, more authority, or more influence than this angel, except only God Himself. What was the nature of this angel’s sin? The Bible says: “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor” (Ezekiel 28:17). His sin was pride. As a perfect creature made by God, his beauty was remarkable and his wisdom was splendid. However, rather than give glory to God for these gifts, he became proud because of them. He saw them not as gifts but as self-earned attributes. The Bible gives more details still. This angel’s name was Lucifer, we’re told in (Isaiah 14:12). He became so prideful that he began to covet the worship the other angels gave to God. He desired to usurp the throne of God and take His place. The Bible declares of Lucifer,

“You have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High’” (Isaiah 14:13,14).

Because Lucifer could not declare open rebellion against God without help, he gathered the support of many of the other angels and, eventually, a “war broke out in heaven” (Revelation 12:7). Lucifer, now renamed Satan (the accuser) because of his rebellion, lost this war, and he and his followers were banished. “So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him” (Revelation 12:9). And so this sinful angel came to earth. We can reasonably infer from the Bible that this drama occurred before God created life on earth, because Satan was already present on the earth at the beginning. God gave the first man and the first woman free reign to explore, to do and eat anything they desired in their original, perfect home … except for a single thing. God made one tree off-limits to them as a test of their loyalty, and Satan was ready to do what was necessary to make them fail that test.


Let’s stop for a moment to consider something important: Why did God not destroy Satan in the beginning? That would have prevented him from coming to Earth and spared all of us from sin and death. Why did God permit Satan to live when the rest of us must die? This question is of the greatest significance, and it gets right to the heart of who God is and why we should learn about Him.


The Bible tells us that God is love (1 John 4:8, 16). The Bible also says that love is not provoked but rejoices in the truth (1 Corinthians 13:4-6. Just as we are free to make our own decisions each day, so too are the angels. Satan accused God of being unfair, of hoarding to Himself power and worship that rightly belonged to others including Satan himself. If God destroyed Satan immediately as a result of his rebellion, the remaining angels would see that God was easily provoked and might be afraid of Him. They might serve Him out of fear and not love. In order for God to demonstrate the truth about His character of love, He must allow Satan’s rebellion to reveal its own results and to play out. God wants His angels and people to serve Him because His way is righteous, just, and leads to life, happiness, and prosperity—not out of fear of destruction if they rebel. When Satan’s rebellion in heaven and on earth reveals that its results are death, disease, destruction, heartache, divorce, starvation, torture, war, homicide, suicide, genocide, and “all kinds of evil,” all created beings will see for themselves that God deserves our worship and is, truly, love (1 Timothy 6:10). Satan chose earth to continue his rebellion and determined to cause the first man and woman to disobey God’s only prohibition. Genesis 2:16 records God’s instruction to the man regarding this boundary. It says, 

“And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, ‘Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.’”

The instruction was plain. Eating from the forbidden tree would result in death. Death did not exist at that time, and would not have ever existed on earth if the man and woman had obeyed this simple command. We must ask ourselves why the penalty for this small infraction was so severe. The answer is simple. The Bible is clear that God “alone has immortality” and that “the gift of God is eternal life” (1 Timothy 6:16; Romans 6:23). So immortality can only exist through a connection with God. If that connection is severed, immortality ceases and death ensues. The Bible uses the word “sin” to describe this separation from God; though it is used to label specific actions that are contrary to God’s will, such as adultery and murder, God sees sin as a much bigger problem because it severs His children from Himself and makes them subject to death. Sin is a state of being apart from God. Therefore, even a small act of rebellion separates the sinner from God and results in death. Satan succeeded in tricking the first woman into disobeying God, and she in turn caused the man to disobey as well. Taking the form of a talking serpent (which would baffle and amaze just about anybody, wouldn’t it?), Satan claimed that disobeying God would not result in death, but would instead give them powers and understanding beyond what they currently possessed. The Bible records this deception in Genesis 3:1-5 which reads:

“Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, ‘Has God indeed said, “You shall not eat of every tree of the garden”?’ And the woman said to the serpent, ‘We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, “You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.”’ Then the serpent said to the woman, ‘You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.’”


Satan told the woman that her disobedience would cause her to be like God. This, we remember, was Lucifer’s original sin. Like Lucifer, the woman fell victim to this temptation and ate the forbidden fruit. Genesis 3:6 tells us, “So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.”

Since the man and the woman had sinned, they now knew the nature of evil. God is good; God is love. To be separate from goodness and love is to be joined with badness and evil. Evil cannot inherit immortality, for God alone is immortal and God is not evil. God declares, in Genesis 3:22,23:

“‘Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever’— therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken.”

The man and woman eventually had children, and every person ever born is ultimately descended from this original pair. Everyone born since that time has been subject to death. This sad tale has affected everyone who has ever lived. Through no fault of our own, we were born into a world that is separated from the God who created it, and as such we all must face the day when we must eventually die. But there is hope! The same God who made mankind “in His own image” cares too much to allow us to die in despair (Genesis 1:27). Through Jesus Christ, we have the hope of immortality restored to us. Humanity cannot overcome death by itself. The Bible tells us plainly that “the wages of sin is death,” so death is the penalty we all must pay (Romans 6:23). But God chose to pay our ultimate penalty for us. Jesus Christ, who is God took on human flesh, lived a life free from sin yet died anyway. He took the sins of the entire world upon Himself and suffered our consequence so we might live eternally according to His righteousness. The mystery of salvation is greater even than the mystery of death, yet the truth of the matter is that God loves each person so much that He chose to impart eternal life to sinners even though they don’t deserve it, and the only thing He asks in return is faith that He has done this remarkable thing. To all who understand this, God freely imparts the promise of eternal life in paradise, where they will never be subject to death again. The Bible declares triumphantly, “Death is swallowed up in victory” (1 Corinthians 15:54). The mystery of death will become the memory of death, and its horror will disappear from reality forever. Until that time, however, we must live with the reality of death, and there has been much confusion and misunderstanding over the issue. Even Christian churches throughout time have stumbled over this topic. We believe, however, that a thorough and honest study of the Scriptures reveals the true nature of death and the beauty of God’s solution to it.


So what, exactly, happens when we die? Heaven? Hell? Reincarnation? Nothing?

Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me,” and also, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live” (John 14:6; John 11:25). Because of these bold claims, followers of Jesus’ teachings have often claimed to know the “truth about death,” claiming the Bible as their authority on the matter. Yet how can this approach be foolproof when the “truth about death” varies even between Christian churches?  How can we be confident in our Bible study technique so that we are also confident in the result it yields?

The answer lies in the Bible itself, offering a prescription for finding God’s truth:
“Whom will he teach knowledge? And whom will he make to understand the message? Those just weaned from milk? Those just drawn from the breasts? For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little” (Isaiah 28:9,10).

In other words, a mature study of God’s message (one that contains more than just the “milk” of the Scriptures) demands that each passage about a subject must be compared to every other passage on the subject in the Bible. If we fail to do this, we might look at only part of the message and declare it to be the entire truth. Worse yet, we might misunderstand the message and declare blatant falsehood as truth. Which can lead others and yourself astray. So let’s begin at the beginning and see if the message we find there remains consistent as the rest of the Bible unfolds. The first chapter of Genesis says that the heavens and the Earth were all created by God as He spoke them into existence.

“Then God said, ‘Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear’; and it was so” (Genesis 1:9).

God’s words create matter and energy. He is so powerful that He must merely say something for it to become reality. Yet the Bible tells us that God did not speak mankind into existence. Rather, He molded the first man with His own hands. “The LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being” (Genesis 2:7). God cares for mankind so much that He used His own hands to make man perfect. Then, because the body must be animated to become alive, God breathed the “breath of life” into the body, and the man lived. It is important to recognize this formula for life. The body without the breath is not alive; neither is the breath alive without a body. Only when the two elements are joined together does life occur. When we look at the same passage in the King James translation, it says, “Man became a living soul.” The word “soul” has been used to describe an intangible part of the human that is separate from the body and lives on after death, but the Bible defines a “soul” as the combination of a body and the breath, or spirit, from God. A person does not HAVE a soul; a person IS a soul, according to the Word of God. Life, then, comes from God as a gift. The Old Testament patriarch Job understood this when he said, “As long as my breath is in me, And the breath of God in my nostrils,” he would not commit sin (Job 27:3). He knew that the breath inside of him was truly the breath from God. The author of the book of Ecclesiastes, most likely King Solomon, the wisest man who ever lived, demonstrated this equation in reverse. He wrote, describing death, “Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it” (Ecclesiastes 12:7). Therefore, we acknowledge that there is an invisible, intangible part of human life that exists apart from the body. However, the Bible tells us that it is not an immortal human soul, but rather a spirit from God. God lends us a part of Himself while we are alive, but that part returns to God when we die because it was always on loan from God to begin with. The Bible records this same truth in the Christian era. The apostle James declares that “the body without the spirit is dead,” and thus recognizes that life is a combination of those two elements and ceases to exist when they are separated. This concept is easy to understand when we consider the elements of artificial light. We create light by starting with a light bulb and adding an electric current to it. The product of those two elements is light. When we break the bulb or stop the electricity, the light ceases to exist. The light, like our lives, cannot exist in the absence of either of the two components that make it up. This teaching obviously differs from what most Christian churches teach. While we respect their views and their faith, we encourage every person to take an honest look at what the Scriptures say about the subject of death. Not only is its formula for life clear, as we’ve demonstrated, but it has an abundance to say about the human experience after death as well. Consider these few thoughts on the matter:

“The dead do not praise the LORD, Nor any who go down into silence” (Psalm 115:17).

This tells us that death brings silence, and not praise, for God. Wouldn’t you praise God if you were in His presence in heaven?

“[A man’s] spirit departs, he returns to his earth; In that very day his plans perish”  (Psalm 146:4).

Our plans do not continue beyond the grave because death means the cessation of life. Life stops at death.

“For in death there is no remembrance of [God]; In the grave who will give You thanks?” (Psalm 6:5).

How can we not remember God if we are with Him each day?

“For Sheol cannot thank You, Death cannot praise You; Those who go down to the pit cannot hope for Your truth”  (Isaiah 38:18).

Death holds no thanks, praise, or hope for God.

“Yet he shall be brought to the grave, And a vigil kept over the tomb” (Job 21:32).

The dead go to the grave and stay there.

“For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished; Nevermore will they have a share In anything done under the sun” (Ecclesiastes 9:5,6).

This speaks for itself, doesn’t it?

“Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave where you are going” (Ecclesiastes 9:10).

The Bible is overwhelmingly clear that death means death. When we die, we return to the same state of consciousness we had before we were born: none. It is understandable why pagan religions and cultures often immortalize their dead and why this doctrine crept into both the Jewish and, eventually, Christian religions over time. The grief that survivors must endure after a loved one dies can be unbearable, and the thought of this loved one in a perfect paradise looking down upon the survivors can bring a sense of relief and comfort.  If this were the story the Bible gave us, we would believe it. However, the Bible tells us plainly that death means a loss of consciousness and a loss of life. Though this understanding highlights how horrible death really is, it also should alleviate our fears about it. No matter how painful a method of death is, no matter how many unresolved issues you leave behind, no matter how scared of the dark you are, at the moment of death you will cease to be aware of anything, even your own death. Just as you can never tell the moment you fall asleep, so too is death. There is nothing to fear, because there is nothing at all. Consider the alternative for a moment. If you could actually look down upon the remaining earthlings from your divine heavenly paradise, you would see that the people you love continue to struggle, get sick, and die. You would witness their lies and their hurts. You would see the secret things they never wanted you to see when you were alive. If they rebel against God, you would know ahead of time that they would not join you in heaven. It is hard to imagine paradise including those things. Also consider that the idea that death brings an immediate reward that includes greater knowledge and abilities than you had before is the same lie that Satan told the first woman to get her to rebel against God in the garden of Eden! He told her, “You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil” (Genesis 3:4,5). The devil made sin, which leads to death, seem like an attractive thing; death seemed like a reward. The devil has been telling this lie since the beginning. He has told the same story all throughout time.


Another Bible text confirms that the dead go to sleep when they die, but it also gives a hint as to how God will eventually correct this problem. Consider Job 14:10-12:

“But man dies and is laid away; Indeed he breathes his last And where is he? As water disappears from the sea, And a river becomes parched and dries up, So man lies down and does not rise. Till the heavens are no more, They will not awake Nor be roused from their sleep.”

This text tells us that a man’s death is like a river drying up and promises that the sleep of death will not be disturbed until “the heavens are no more.” Did you know that the Bible talks about a time when the heavens will, indeed, be no more? At that time, the dead will be roused from their sleep. God loves His children too much to allow them to die forever. Jesus Christ makes a promise to everyone who will believe it and accept it regarding the time when the dead will wake up. He says:

“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also” (John 14:1-3).

So Christ tells us that when He returns to Earth, He will raise the dead and bring them to heaven with Him, so everyone can be together in a land with no more death. The Bible describes Christ’s return by saying, “The stars of heaven fell to the earth, and the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up” (Revelation 6:13, 14). The heavens, as we know them, will be no more, and life will never be the same again. Death might be a sleep of unconsciousness, but it is only temporary. For those who trust in God to keep His promises, eternal life without death awaits.
Jesus Christ, who is God incarnate, came to earth to live a sinless life and die bearing the sins of every man, woman, and child throughout time, thus redeeming the fallen race from the plague of death and offering eternal life to anyone who is willing to accept it. But how, exactly, will this solution come about? Christ lived nearly two millennia ago, and we are still living in a world with death and sin. Clearly, the controversy is not over yet … but it will be soon. Jesus Christ promised to return and told us about many signs in the world that act as indicators that His return is drawing near. Every single one of those signs is being fulfilled in today’s world.

But what do we have to look forward to when Jesus comes back?

We find an amazing Bible promise in 1 Thessalonians 4:16….it says: “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. ”When Jesus returns, everyone will know it. It will not be a secret. God’s voice is so loud that even the dead hear it (John 5:28). Just as God’s voice created the earth and all that is in it in the first place, His voice recreates life for the dead throughout time who hoped for a better life in heaven someday. The “dead in Christ” will come out of their graves into eternal life without end. The promise continues in verse 17, saying, “Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.”God’s people who remain alive until the moment Christ returns are not left out of this amazing event. They will join the risen dead to meet Jesus in the air and will enjoy eternal life without ever experiencing death. We hope to be part of that group. We hope you are too. But what will this new life be like? Will we exist as spirit beings, playing harps on clouds for eternity? Or does God have something else in store?


1 Corinthians 15:51,52 describes the great resurrection day by saying,


"We shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed". 


The new body we will received at Christ's return will not be the same as the one we have now. The author continues his description in verse 53 which says, "For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortaility." The new body will not be subject to corruption. It will never die. It will not grow old, diseased, or decrepit. We will live forever in the presence of God in bodies that reflect His goodness and glory. Never again will out bodies be separated from the breath of life. Never again will out souls die. Much more can be said about the resurrection body and a life without death, but that is a topic for another time as Revelation 22 describes a little but of what heaven will be like. We know from the Bible that death is an abnormality. It was never part of God's plan, it exists due to rebellion against God; death is the cessation of life, and it holds nothing but silence and unconsciousness; God paid the ultimate price for sin and death in the person of Jesus Christ, and one day....very soon....all who accept God's free gift of eternal life will be changed and will never experience death again. Jesus paid the price for you to receive eternal life without death, but you have the power to accept or reject that gift. It is our sincere hope that you accept that gift today and set your heart on the life to come, when death, disease, and all misery will be things of the past. We hope to see you in heaven someday. Won't you join us? Won't you make a decision for God today?

Death and the State of the Dead - Part 5

But don’t souls depart from people when they die?

Texts in question: Genesis 35:18, 1 Kings 17:21,22

“And so it was, as her soul was departing (for she died), that she called his name Ben-Oni; but his father called him Benjamin” (Genesis 35:18).

“And he stretched himself out on the child three times, and cried out to the LORD and said, ‘O LORD my God, I pray, let this child’s soul come back to him.’ Then the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came back to him, and he revived (1 Kings 17:21,22).

These two Old Testament stories appear to support the idea that each person has an immortal soul that departs from the body when the body dies. This theology typically includes the idea that the soul then travels to heaven or hell where it remains for eternity. But if you read neither of the texts in question contain anything about heaven or hell. To me the key to understanding the texts from Genesis 35 and 1 Kings 17 is to know how the Bible defines a “soul.” You have to understand how the Bible defines a “soul”. If not then you have no shot in understanding this verse in the way the Bible teaches it. Genesis 2:7 says this: “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” Thus, a soul is the combination of a body made of dust and the breath of life, elsewhere called the spirit of God. This spirit, or breath, is only one component of the soul, not the soul itself. When the body and the breath are disconnected from one another, the soul ceases to exist. It “departs,” as it were. With this understanding the texts tell us nothing except that the people in question died. Their “souls,” or essence of life, departed. In the case of the child, it came back. The bodies remain, but without the breath of God, so there is no soul. The Hebrew word used in both instances is pronounced neh'-fesh. It translates, roughly, to “breath,” or “vitality,” and often refers to a living creature. Thus, the (breath, vitality) departed from the people when they died. Many modern translations of the Bible don’t use the word “soul” in the texts in question. For example the NIV (which I have both a NKJ and NIV version of the bible that I use) translates Genesis 35:18 as:  “As she breathed her last—for she was dying—she named her son Ben-Oni. But his father named him Benjamin.”

1 Kings 17:21, 22 in the NIV, reads:

“Then he stretched himself out on the boy three times and cried out to the LORD, ‘LORD my God, let this boy’s life return to him!’ The LORD heard Elijah’s cry, and the boy’s life returned to him, and he lived.”

So to me it’s very clear that these texts do not offer evidence of an immortal soul that exists separately from the body.

Do Christians go to heaven after they die?
There’s a couple of Scriptures that people have misunderstood, at least that’s what I think. One Scripture is where Paul says, ‘to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord’.  People understand that to mean that as soon as you die, you, that next moment, you are transported to Heaven before the Resurrection.  

Lets examine this shall we. Paul – understanding that when you’re dead and asleep, you have no consciousness of time – he knew that his next conscious thought would be the presence of the Lord.  And you can use several Bible characters as examples. Lets take King David.  The Bible says in Acts chapter 2 that he’s dead and buried – now this is after the Resurrection of Jesus.  David is a good man, he’s going to Heaven.  The Bible says he’s dead, he’s buried, he’s not yet ascended to Heaven.  Well when David died, Nathan the Prophet said ‘you’ll sleep with your fathers’.  David is sleeping.  He died a thousand years before Christ, but for him it’ll be a moment, the twinkling of an eye, his next breath will be when Jesus descends and he breathes in with a glorified lung, a new body.  So we get confused because you and I are confined to time.  We live in this element of time, this dimension that the dead do not feel right now.  Their next conscious thought is the Resurrection because Jesus said the dead in Christ rise when He comes.  If they’re already in Heaven, why rise them up? I mean think about it right? What good is the Resurrection if they’re already up there? 

Ok here is another example….the Bible translators in every different language have to figure out where they put the punctuation in verses.  The way that words read - and matter of fact, some translators translate this in this way – Jesus turned to the thief.  The thief said ‘Lord remember me when you come into your Kingdom.’  Then Jesus turns to the thief - King James Version says, ‘Verily I say unto you (comma,) you will be with me today in paradise.’  The way that it should read is, ‘Verily I say unto you today (COMMA,) you will be with me in paradise.  Now you see what a big difference that makes? Jesus is saying I don’t look like a King today.  I don’t look like I’m a Lord today.  Everyone around here is mocking me, but I’m telling you today, even though I look defeated, you’re going to be there with me when it’s all said and done. It will not be today but at the end of time when I come back to take my people home.  The emphasis is today – when the moment looks the darkest and the valley is the deepest – I’m making a promise to you that you and I will be in the Kingdom together because you believe in me. Jesus wasn’t saying today (meaning right now) you’re going to be there with me. The proof for that is found in John when Jesus rose from the dead, Mary grabs Him from the feet – and this is two days later – He says, ‘Do not detain me’ or ‘do not cling to me for I’ve not yet ascended to My Father’.  That’s John chapter 20:17.  Well that’s two days later.  Christ hasn’t gone to the Father yet.  The Bible says the Father is in paradise. So how could Christ be with the thief in paradise on Friday if He still hadn’t gotten there by Sunday? Remember Jesus rested all day on the Sabbath day in the tomb.

Ok so this next and last section coming up (click on Part 6) is not my words or research. I got Part 6 off a Christian website and I thought it was great so I wanted to add it to my personal study on the state of the dead. It helps add to/prove my point that the Bible is always true if you let it interrupt itself and not read it with any of your own ideas or agendas in mind. It’s an AMAZING overview of everything I think. Ok so go click on part 6 and enjoy!!

Death and the State of the Dead - Part 4

Aren’t the spirits of just men made perfect after death?

Text in question: Hebrews 12:23
” to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect.”

Proof texts: Hebrews 12:18-24

Here Paul gives a sentence fragment of a verse, but people think it stands alone as a theological basis for a doctrine. The book of Hebrews must be examined in its entirety to reach conclusions about the theology presented in it. The theme of Hebrews is keeping Christians of Jewish descent from returning to Jewish traditions by explaining how they were all fulfilled in the life and death of Jesus Christ. For example, it describes the position of the High Priest of the sanctuary system as an office that must continually fall to other men since the existing High Priest eventually dies, but that the heavenly sanctuary has an eternal High Priest…Jesus, who is not subject to death. This comparison between the old system and the new sets up the context for the verse in question regarding “the spirits of just men made perfect.” Hebrews 12:18. This verse begins this comparison during which we find the text in question. Paul describes the experience of Moses and the Israelites in the desert at Mt. Sinai when they received the Ten Commandments from God. The Bible states in Hebrews 12:18-21 - “For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest, and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, so that those who heard it begged that the word should not be spoken to them anymore. (For they could not endure what was commanded, ‘And if so much as a beast touches the mountain, it shall be stoned or shot with an arrow.’ And so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, ‘I am exceedingly afraid and trembling’). To the people at Mt. Sinai, the presence of God was foreboding and terrifying. Even the righteous Moses is said to have been “exceedingly afraid.” By contrast, the Christian people need not be afraid of God because their sins have been forgiven by the blood of Jesus Christ. To illustrate this Paul continues in Hebrews 12:22-24:  “But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel” The comparison is striking. Mt. Sinai brought fear and trembling. Mt. Zion brings heaven itself and joy in the presence of the angels, the saved, and Jesus Christ.

Understanding this context, we know that the groups listed in the passage are those that will be present in heaven when the day comes, but they are not necessarily in heaven already. Paul writes that “you have come” to Mount Zion and the heavenly Jerusalem; yet the readers were still alive when they read this book, so they clearly had not literally come to heaven. Rather, they accept by faith that, even though they remain on earth, they have already come to be part of heaven and will be there physically someday. This is important, because Paul describes each group in terms of their current status, rather than their eventual status (“are registered in heaven,” rather than “are present in heaven”).

According to this passage, we can expect to see the following in heaven:

• Innumerable angels
• God the Judge of all
• Jesus the Mediator

The passage also lists two distinct groups that refer to human beings. They are:

• The church of the firstborn
• Spirits of just men made perfect

Ok now to me you have to ask yourself this question….why would Paul list two groups of people here? Let’s identify who they are…..

The “firstborn” is Jesus Christ (read Revelation 1:5). Therefore, the “church of the firstborn” consists of faithful members of the Christian church. But God also had people before the time of Christ. They would not be included in this group. Will they still be in heaven? Of course!! Many people from the Old Testament will be numbered among the saved, even though they lived before Christ’s time. This is why Paul lists the second group of people. Christ died on the cross bearing the sins of the whole world, including those of the men and women who had lived before His time. Those people were thereby justified by His sacrifice. Through knowledge of the sanctuary sacrifice system or a belief in God from some other source, these people died looking forward to the coming of Christ and are therefore cleansed from sin. They are justified. The Bible refers to them, as “just men made perfect.” Though sinners, they are justified by God and made perfect through Christ’s sacrifice. Christians in the New Testament era are also justified by faith, but Paul of Hebrews has already accounted for them by listing the “church of the firstborn. Why, then are these deceased saints listed as spirits? Some argue that it is because they live on in heaven in spiritual form. However, the verse equally supports the idea of sleeping in death while awaiting the resurrection. Once the body dies, the breath (or spirit) of God that animated the body returns to God who gave it. Therefore, since those saints had died, the only part left of them is the spirit until God creates for them new bodies when Christ returns. If you study the nature of death God’s spirit is not the same as an immortal human soul. Peter also used the term “spirits” to refer to people living in the past who were deceased when he wrote his book. (See 1 Peter 3:18-20). So this abundance of biblical evidence regarding the nature of death, allows us to draw a conclusion against using this text to support an immortal human soul.

God is the “Father of Spirits.” Doesn’t that mean we live on as spirits?

Text in question: Hebrews 12:9

“We have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?” 

When you study the Bible you must be careful about the study techniques used to gain knowledge of God and divine things. It is a common temptation to “read into” Scriptural texts, a pre-determined idea that we merely want to be true because it feels good and puts our mind at ease, it's something to hold onto. However, when we add meaning to verses that is not explicitly inferred, we often come to incorrect ideas that are not otherwise supported by the Bible, or which even contradict other parts of the Bible which is just wrong on our thinking. The Bible never contradicts itself. Such is often the case with this verse regarding the “Father of Spirits” in Hebrews chapter 12. 

This is the only location in the entire Bible where this phrase is used. Even with the added context of the rest of chapter 12, no additional information comes to light as to what exactly is meant by this phrase. Some people or churches take this single text as proof that we continue to live in spirit form after death….Because God is our Father, and also the Father of spirits, we must therefore be the spirits in question. Other churches or people use this text to support the idea that we lived in spiritual form before our human births (believing in past lives which is spiritualism and wicca type views) and they therefore build entire theologies around the idea of pre-existence. The human body becomes temporary, in this view. It did not exist in the beginning, and will not exist after death, but we were and will be alive even without the body. Without any other texts throughout Hebrews, we must turn to the other Scriptures in the Bible to gain a better understanding of the nature of “spirits” as they are described in the Bible. We find many examples in the book of Revelation. John, the author of Revelation uses the phrase “in the spirit” several times throughout the book. The first instance is in Revelation 1:10 which reads: “I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet. John repeats this phrase in Revelation 4:2, 17:3, and also in 21:10. Each time the Spirit of God brings John to a different location to see a prophetic vision, even though he remains physically on the island of Patmos. We see the term “spirit” used to describe the state of a prophet while in this vision. We also see another use of the word in Revelation 1:4, which says: “John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne. Here the spirits appear to be other beings in heaven who minister before the throne of God. While we don’t know specifically from the Bible, they appear to be non-physical beings, since elsewhere throughout the book we also see “elders,” “angels,” and “creatures.” We can be reasonably certain that they are not deceased human beings, because Revelation 20:4, 5 tells us that the dead do not return to life until after the second coming of Jesus Christ. That is such a key verse to me with this whole study and so clear. Those two verses encompass all the dead, both the righteous and the wicked. Finally, Revelation also tells us about “unclean spirits.” If you read Revelation 16:13,14: “And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs … they are the spirits of demons. These texts specifically tell us that the term spirit can refer to as demons!!! Demons are very clearly not deceased human beings. These are only a few of the instances in which the Bible uses the term “spirit.” The word clearly refers to a multitude of creatures and states of being. Yet God is Father over them all because the Bible tells us plainly that all things were made through God (read John 1:3). In light of this, we cannot state conclusively that Hebrews 12:9 refers to people in spiritual form, either before human birth or after death. To make such a claim requires us to ignore other biblical evidence.


Death and the State of the Dead - Part 3

But Jesus says the soul cannot be killed
Text in question: Matthew 10:28
“And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.”

Proof texts: Matthew 10:28, Ezekiel 18:4, 20

Jesus Christ foretold persecution many times in the Bible. He warned people that persecution would accompany the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem. In Revelation, He warns future generations of the persecution they would face because of their faith in Him. He warns His church that at the close of history a time of trouble “such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time” will occur (Matthew 24:21). For God’s people to endure these times without wavering in their faith, Christ offered the words of encouragement in Matthew 10:28. We understand, and believe, that our bodies may die, but our soul does not. The problem here is two fold. First, the text contains a different message depending on the reader’s understanding of what constitutes a “soul.” Second, people who use this text to prove the existence of an immortal soul often fail to read the second part of the same verse.

If we read this text with a pre-determined idea that the human soul is an immortal, intangible part of us that lives on after death, then Jesus’ words do seem to confirm that the soul cannot be killed. However, if we read the same text with an understanding that a soul is the joining together of a body and the breath of God (see Genesis 2:7), Jesus’ words are a promise of a life to come even when this life ends. Jesus promises that although our bodies may be destroyed now, He will create for us new bodies at the resurrection and that our souls will once again live. This text remains perfectly valid even with an understanding that humans “go to sleep” when they die, and awaiting the resurrection day. Therefore, this text can’t be used to prove anything conclusive about the soul without further evidence. So here is some further evidence from the second half of the same verse to get clarification from Jesus. Matthew 10:28 says: “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

When we consider the second half of the verse, it becomes clear that the soul can indeed die. Further, it states that hell is the place where souls go to die. This calls into question the concept of eternal torment without end in hell fire, but that’s another topic in itself for another study. Though we should always be willing to accept Jesus words as true, we can be comforted in knowing that His words are supported by the rest of the Scriptures. Jesus says that the soul can be destroyed and will thus die. We see the same thing stated twice in Ezekiel chapter 18.
Ezekiel 18:4 records God as saying: “Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.”

Ezekiel 18:20 explains: “The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.”

The text in Matthew does indeed say that mankind can’t kill the soul. The soul can only be destroyed in hell, and man does not have the power to send anyone there. That is a job that belongs only to the righteous Judge, which is the Almighty God Jesus.

Death and the State of the Dead - Part 2

2 Corinthians 5:8, State of the dead, what does this verse mean?

2nd Corinthians 5:8:  ‘We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.’ Ok so many people use this Scripture to say the next thing that happens when a person dies is that they are resurrected and they go to be with the Lord.

That raises a lot of issues because the Bible is very clear that the Resurrection takes place when Jesus comes back.  The Lord will descend from Heaven with a shout, with the Voice of the Archangel, the dead in Christ shall rise which is found in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4.

So what do we do with this verse, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord? Well keep in mind that when a Christian or a saint dies, they have no awareness of time.  Paul speaks of it as a moment, the twinkling of an eye.  Their next conscious thought is the Resurrection and being in God’s presence. King David died about thousand years B.C., and the Bible says he slept with his fathers.  When you read Acts chapter 2 Peter’s says David’s still dead, he’s still buried, and he’s not yet in Heaven. It can’t get much more clearer than that.  But, when Jesus comes, King David is coming out of his grave, he’ll be caught up with the Righteous to meet the Lord in the air, he’ll have his immortal, glorified body.  But for David, when he closed his eyes and Bath Sheba and Nathan the Prophet were around his bedside, the next thing he’s aware of it seems like instantaneous – to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Paul, in 2nd Corinthians, he also speaks about being carnally minded and spiritually minded.  Paul is also hinting at something here that when we are absent from the body, meaning we’re not living for the flesh, we are then living for the Spirit. So there’s a Spiritual application to that verse that a lot of people miss.  It has nothing to do with the Resurrection or the physical presence of God.  It’s talking about not being bodily, carnally minded but being spiritually minded. Very simply, when a Christian dies, their next conscious thought will be the resurrection of the dead when Jesus comes back – the dead in Christ rising which is found several times in Scripture. That hasn't happened yet of course. It is so clear from the words of Jesus. He said they will be raised up the last day; and again Paul says that at the Lord’s coming, the dead in Christ will rise. Again Paul says in 1st Corinthians 15, the dead in Christ will rise at His coming. And so, obviously, they haven’t risen yet but for those who are sleeping in the Lord, their next conscious thought is the Presence of the Lord. The dead sleep and it’s a totally unconscious experience – it’s a dreamless sleep - so that, the next, it’s a twinkling of an eye, so as far as our loved ones are concerned, when they die their next conscious thought is the Presence of the Lord. What messes us up in my opinion is that, we live in a dimension of time that God is not confined to. God can go into the future and see it perfectly. He can take Prophets into the future and show them with great detail exactly what’s going to happen. There were so many Prophets in the Bible that Jesus worked through/with. Take Daniel for example. God can take a Prophet back in time, which might be easier, and show them exactly what’s going to happen. So with this I think what we need to understand is that the Judgment, as far as the time we live in, the Judgment and the Resurrection has not happened yet. It doesn’t make sense to give people their rewards before they’re raised and before they’re judged. So Paul I think is just saying if I am absent from the body my next conscious thought is the Presence of the Lord.

Death and the State of the Dead - Part 1

The Truth About Death

1. How did we get here in the first place?
"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7.

Answer:  God made us from dust in the beginning.

2.   What happens when a person dies?
"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7.

Answer: The body turns to dust again, and the spirit goes back to God, who gave it. The spirit of every person who dies--whether righteous or wicked--returns to God at death.

3.   What is the "spirit" that returns to God at death?
"The body without the spirit ["breath," see margin] is dead." James 2:26. "The spirit of God ["the breath which God gave him," see margin] is in my nostrils." Job 27:3.

Answer: The spirit that returns to God at death is the breath of life. Nowhere in all of God's book does the "spirit" have any life, wisdom, or feeling after a person dies. It is the "breath of life" and nothing more.

4.   What is a "soul" and it’s meaning?
"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7.

Does the word "soul" ever mean anything other than a living being? Psalms 139:14.

Answer: Yes, It may mean also.....1. Life itself, or 2. The Mind, or Intellect. No matter which meaning is intended, the Soul is still a combination of two things.....Body and Breath, and it ceases to exist at death. A Soul is a living being. A Soul is always a combination of two things: Body Plus Breath. A Soul can't exist unless body and breath ar combined. God's Holy Bible teaches that we are souls. Body (Dust) - The Breath (Spirit) = Death (No Soul).


5.   Do souls die?
"The soul that sinneth, it shall die." Ezekiel 18:20. "Every living soul died in the sea." Revelation 16:3.

Answer: According to God's Word, souls do die! We are souls, and souls die. Man is mortal (Job 4:17). Only God is immortal (1 Timothy 6:15, 16). The concept of an undying, immortal soul goes against the Bible, which teaches that souls are subject to death.

6.   Do good people go to heaven when they die?
"All that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth." John 5:28, 29. "David ... is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day." "For David is not ascended into the heavens." Acts 2:29, 34. "If I wait, the grave is mine house." Job 17:13.

Answer: No, people do not go either to heaven or hell at death. They go to their graves to await the resurrection day.

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7.   How much does one know or comprehend after death?
"The living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun." "There is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest." Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10. "The dead praise not the Lord." Psalms 115:17.

Answer: God says that the dead know absolutely nothing!

8.   But can't the dead communicate with the living, and aren't they aware of what the living are doing?
"So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep." "His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them." Job 14:12, 21. "Neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun." Ecclesiastes 9:6.

Answer: No, the dead cannot contact the living, nor do they know what the living are doing. They are dead. Their thoughts have perished (Psalms 146:4).

9.   Jesus called the unconscious state of the dead "sleep" in John 11:11-14. How long will they sleep?
"So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more." Job 14:12. "The day of the Lord will come ... in the which the heavens shall pass away."
2 Peter 3:10.

Answer: The dead will sleep until the great day of the Lord at the end of the world when Jesus comes back to take us home. In death, humans are totally unconscious with no activity or knowledge of any kind.

10.   What happens to the righteous dead at the second coming of Christ?
"Behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be." Revelation 22:12. "The Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, ... and the dead in Christ shall rise ... and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17. "We shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, ... and the dead shall be raised incorruptible. ... For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality." 1 Corinthians 15:51-53.

Answer: They will be rewarded. They will be raised, given immortal bodies, and caught up to meet the Lord in the air. There would be no purpose in a resurrection if people were taken to heaven at death.

11.   What was the devil's first lie?
"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die." Genesis 3:4. "That old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan." Revelation 12:9.

Answer: Satan told Eve that sin would not bring death. "Ye shall not surely die," he said.

12.   Why did the devil lie to Eve about death? Could this subject be more important than many think?

Answer: It is one of the cornerstones of the devil's kingdom. He has worked powerful miracles down through the ages through people who claim to receive their power from the spirits of the dead. (Examples: Magicians of Egypt--Exodus 7:11; Woman of Endor--1 Samuel 28:3-25; Sorcerers--Daniel 2:2; A certain damsel--Acts 16:16-18.)

A Solemn Warning
In the end-time Satan will again use sorcery--as he did in Daniel's day--to deceive the world (Revelation 18:23). Sorcery is a supernatural agency that claims to receive its power and wisdom from the spirits of the dead.

Posing as Jesus' Disciples
Posing as godly loved ones who have died, saintly clergymen who are now dead, Bible prophets, or even the apostles or disciples of Christ (2 Corinthians 11:13), Satan and his angels will deceive billions. Those who believe the dead are alive, in any form, will most assuredly be deceived.

13.   Do devils really work miracles?
"They are the spirits of devils, working miracles." Revelation 16:14. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:24.

Answer: Yes, indeed! Devils work incredibly convincing miracles (Revelation 13:13, 14). Satan and his angels will appear as angels of light (2 Corinthians 11:14) and, even more shocking, as Christ Himself (Matthew 24:23, 24). The universal feeling will be that Christ and His angels are leading out in a fantastic worldwide revival. The entire emphasis will seem so spiritual and be so supernatural that only God's elect will not be deceived.

14.   Why will God's people not be deceived?
"They received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." Acts 17:11. "If they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Isaiah 8:20.

Answer: God's people will know from their earnest study of His book that the dead are dead, not alive. Spirits of the dead do not exist. Therefore, God's people will reject all miracle workers and teachers who claim to receive special "light" or work miracles by contacting the spirits of the dead. And God's people will likewise reject as dangerous and false all teachings that claim the dead are alive in any form, anywhere.

15.   Back in Moses' day, what did God command should be done to people who taught that the dead were alive?
"A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones." Leviticus 20:27.

Answer: God insisted that wizards and others with "familiar spirits" (who claimed to be able to contact the dead) should be stoned to death. This shows how God regards the false teaching that the dead are alive

16.   Will the righteous people who are raised in the resurrection ever die again?
"They which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, ... Neither can they die any more." Luke 20:35, 36. "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away." Revelation 21:4.

Answer: No! Death, sorrow, crying, and tragedy will never enter into God's new kingdom.

17.   Belief in reincarnation…..Is this teaching biblical?
"The living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing. ... Neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun." Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6.

Answer: I believe that almost half the people on earth believe in reincarnation--a teaching that the soul never dies but is instead continually reborn in a different kind of body with each succeeding generation. This teaching, however, is contrary to Scripture.

The Bible Says
After death a person: returns to dust (Psalms 104:29), knows nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5), possesses no mental powers (Psalms 146:4), has nothing to do with anything on earth (Ecclesiastes 9:6), does not live (2 Kings 20:1), waits in the grave (Job 17:13), and continues not (Job 14:1, 2). I mean this is clear enough to me. How can you believe anything else when the Bible is the clear.

Satan's Invention
Satan invented the teaching that the dead are alive. Reincarnation, channeling, communication with spirits, spirit worship, Spiritualism, and the "undying soul" are all inventions of Satan, with one aim--to convince people that when you die you are not really dead. When people believe that the dead are alive, "spirits of devils, working miracles" (Revelation 16:14) and posing as spirits of the dead will be able to deceive and lead them astray virtually 100 percent of the time (Matthew 24:24).

Ok if this wasn't evidence enough let me dive deeper into more verses that I think will help you understand the state of the dead.